Tuesday, March 2, 2010
Extra Credit Discussion Question #2
In our first question, we discussed whether or not "men...above all else, desire power." Do you think that the narrator in The Fellowship of the Ring meant "people" desire power, or that "males" desire power? XoTropicanaXo said that she agreed with the narrator, and offered the female portagonist of Money Hungry as an example. What do you think?
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In the lord of the rings i think that the narrator meant men. Because so far it's been only men who tried on the ring. And men wanted power so badly that they kill. Also it's only men who desire the ring to control the other populations/people on the rest of the land.For an example when the hobbit who found the ring in a cave or something when he was leaving and the wizard asked him to leave the ring he got all gready about it but eventually left it behind for frodo.
-ChocolateAyisyen
I think that the narrator meant both women and men, because in many sayings it only mentions men. For example this is a common saying, "Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise." In this quote from Benjamin Franklin, he only mentions a man, because in that period of time women didn't have that many rights so he didn't mention them. But everyone want power, it doesn't matter what they gender are.
ChocolateAiyen may have a good point that the ones who held the ring were all men, but men are not the only ones who desire power for my example in the previous question proved that. If the narrator had meant men as in male then that phrase wouldn't be correct for women desire power too. I believe ChocolateAiyen also mentioned the part of Lord of the Rings where the hobbit had a hard time giving the ring up to the wizard, I thought it was because the ring had a strong effect on the people who wore it, not because of their gender. The creature that was in the cave, he too had once held the ring, and I wouldn't consider the creature to be a man. Also, both the creature and the hobbit called the ring "my precious", so that led me to believe that its the ring that has the effect on them and not because it't in their nature to want power as male. If a female had worn the ring, wouldn't the ring have the same effect on her? I believe so.:)
I think the narrator meant men because it is clear to see who he was talking about. In the begining there was an army of men fighting this evil man who thurst for power, but used it in a very evil wicked way. If anyone else took the ring they probably would have used it for their own selffish needs. This saying can also be for woman too. We strive for power as much as men do. We want to be the prettest looking person, the person with the best personallity, and etc. We are all in a competition to be the best and be on top.
I think the narrator meant that men desire power. So far only men have had the ring or main parts in the movie. Today almost all people desire power. They mostly want power in wealth though.
In my opinion, the narrator of this particular book and how this book is meant men as in males and man. I say this because like people are saying on here the rings are mostly being worn by men. I don't hear of any women in the movie so the narrator must mean males. But, generally meaning when someone says that they mean men as in humans and people. So my opinion about this is that in the book and movie the narrator is talking about men males and in general when people are talking about this issue they are saying man as in humans and any gender.
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